Avoiding Babylon
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Catholic channel and podcast focused on community, eutrapelia, and good cheer. We discuss news and topics but try to do so in a way that leads to hope, not despair. We try to remind ourselves and those who enjoy the channel that being Catholic is a joyful and exciting experience. Above all, we try to bring humor and joy to the craziness of this fallen world.
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Live Streamed on January 8, 2026 8:04 PM ET
Trump Preparing the US for War

Anthony and Rob discuss Trump and his preparations for war as well as whether we are in "The End of History" or a "Clash of Civilizations".

The spark was small—a tweet from Bishop Barron about synodality and doctrine—but the questions behind it are huge: What should a synod actually decide? How did “the spirit of Vatican II” turn into perpetual uncertainty? And why are everyday Catholics still getting side-eyed for kneeling at communion? We open the hood on a consistory that could reset expectations, sift Barron’s argument for what it gets right and wrong, and get painfully practical about reverence, freedom, and pastoral authority.

Along the way, we share a happier twist: a priest reached out and offered to accompany our Italy trip, making daily Latin Mass not only possible but likely across private chapels in Rome and beyond. That momentum matters. People don’t want liturgical roulette; they want beauty, clarity, and worship that deepens faith. The pastoral playbook that treats piety as a problem is wearing thin, and that comes into sharp focus with a diocese banning portable kneelers for the elderly and Jonathan Roumie describing how he was told to stand when he tried to receive on his knees. Reverence isn’t performance; it’s love braving friction.

We don’t dodge the tough map either. Under Francis, a common foe united disparate trad corners. Under Leo, the tone is calmer, but the doctrinal direction still worries many. Could a non-territorial jurisdiction—an ordinariate-style solution with bishops from traditional communities—offer stability without schism? Maybe. Or maybe it risks a new ghetto unless leaders honor what’s already law: the right to kneel, the right to receive on the tongue, and the call to worship God with proper solemnity. We’re watching the consistory, reading the dubia, and building something constructive: a pilgrimage ordered to daily prayer and the Eucharist.

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This can't continue... | Karmelo Anthony, Henry Nowak, and Belfast

The Karmelo Anthony verdict is in, the Henry Nowak bodycam case has rocked the UK, and Belfast is burning — and across all three, one question keeps surfacing: is the law applied equally anymore? Tonight, Avoiding Babylon breaks down the verdict in the Austin Metcalf killing, the police handcuffing of a dying Henry Nowak, and the escalating unrest in Belfast, examining the two-tier justice system that seems to treat people differently depending on who they are.

We'll look at these three cases through a Catholic lens — not as isolated headlines, but as symptoms of a civilization that has abandoned equal justice and the moral order beneath it. This is about institutional accountability, media silence, and the collapse of the West, viewed from a higher vantage.

Join the livestream, sound off in the chat, and stand with us as we refuse to look away.

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Rome as the Eternal City with Joshua Charles

Have you ever wondered what happened after the Book of Acts closes? The story of Christianity's explosive growth through the ancient world might be the most thrilling chapter in Church history you've never fully explored.

Joshua Charles, founder of Eternal Christendom, takes us on a captivating journey through the grand narrative of salvation history, revealing how Greek philosophy, Roman order, and Hebrew revelation converged at the perfect moment for Christ's arrival. This isn't just ancient history—it's the story we're still living today.

Discover how the early Church Fathers understood prophecy unfolding before their eyes as pagan temples fell and Christian altars rose across the empire. Learn why St. Thomas Aquinas identified "obedience to the Roman Church" as the mysterious restrainer mentioned in Scripture, and why this matters for our current moment.

The conversation ventures into fascinating territory as Joshua addresses the recurring biblical motif of older and younger brothers—from ...

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Rome as the Eternal City with Joshua Charles (Audio Version)

Have you ever wondered what happened after the Book of Acts closes? The story of Christianity's explosive growth through the ancient world might be the most thrilling chapter in Church history you've never fully explored.

Joshua Charles, founder of Eternal Christendom, takes us on a captivating journey through the grand narrative of salvation history, revealing how Greek philosophy, Roman order, and Hebrew revelation converged at the perfect moment for Christ's arrival. This isn't just ancient history—it's the story we're still living today.

Discover how the early Church Fathers understood prophecy unfolding before their eyes as pagan temples fell and Christian altars rose across the empire. Learn why St. Thomas Aquinas identified "obedience to the Roman Church" as the mysterious restrainer mentioned in Scripture, and why this matters for our current moment.

The conversation ventures into fascinating territory as Joshua addresses the recurring biblical motif of older and younger brothers—from ...

Rome as the Eternal City with Joshua Charles (Audio Version)
Charlie Kirk says Mary is the Antidote to Feminism (Full Audio Show)

When evangelical leader Charlie Kirk declared "the antidote to feminism is our Lady," Catholics across social media took notice. His surprising admission that "we as Protestants and Evangelicals under-venerate Mary" has sparked intense conversation about whether the prominent conservative commentator might be on a path toward Rome.

The statement represents a significant theological shift for Kirk, who went on to praise Mary as "a phenomenal example and a counter to so much of the toxicity of feminism in the modern era." While careful not to overstate what's happening, we examine this moment through a Catholic lens, exploring how devotion to Mary has historically led many Protestant thinkers toward Catholic teaching. Reports that Kirk has been attending weekday Mass with his wife add an intriguing dimension to the discussion.

We also revisit Michael Knowles' earlier conversation with Kirk about Catholicism, analyzing the challenges of interfaith dialogue when trying to balance ...

Charlie Kirk says Mary is the Antidote to Feminism (Full Audio Show)
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